Thursday, June 07, 2018

Today I will talk about the trouble Hong Kong has with non Chinese people living there.  Hong Kong's population has double since I was there in the 60's to 7.8 million today.  About 600,000 are non Chinese or about 8% of the population.  Half of these are domestic workers, mostly women from Philippines or Indonesia.  About 10% are white and the rest mostly from South Asia with some from the Middle East and Africa.  The 10% white people generally live well in Hong Kong.  They don't have the white privilege when HK was a British colony but they are treated better than other non Chinese.  For example, almost all whites who have lived several years in HK and are employed will be able to get citizenship.  There are actually quite a few who choose to take HK passport and get rid of the passports from North America, Britain or Australia.  HK passports are well accepted throughout the world and certainly makes for easier in and out China for business. 

The domestic workers are not able to get citizenship.  They live a hard life.  They are in their employer's house for 24 hours a day, 6 days a week.  On Sundays you can see many of them congregate in parks or even subway stations for picnic and see their fellow workers.  There are some people in HK who want to put in law prohibiting such congregation.  Where are they supposed to go?  There are some liberals who want to build clubs for them to use. But with land so expensive, it is doubtful that HK government will shell out the money.  There are also reports of abuse by their employers.  Fortunately there is a lot of coverage for these abuses on tv and newspapers recently.  Of course, there are employer claims of stealing.  So not sure how it shakes out in the future.  But obviously HK need these workers just like the U.S. needs workers from south of the border.

For the other non white, non Chinese people, there are two categories.  Legal immigrants who have been in the city for a long time and refugees.  For legal immigrants who are not white, path to citizenship is harder than whites but is successful about 70% of  the time.  Why not 100%?  Not sure but discrimination is probably a factor.  There are refugees from South Asia, Middle East and Africa. If you can find your way to HK, they won't deport you unless you commit a crime.  But you can't officially work and get citizenship.  Some came with the hope of getting to a western country.  Unlike some places where you are stuck in a squalid camp, HK does provide you some monetary assistance for food and housing.  This costs HK about $450 million a year.  But you are in limbo unless you get accepted by a country.

Anthony Bourdain had a segment on refugees in HK on his program of traveling to HK last Sunday.
He visited the Chungking Mansion which is not really a mansion but an apartment complex with stores and eateries on the first two floors.  It is situated in Tsim Sha Tsui district of Kowloon which is like Time Square in NY.  We happened to wander into the Mansion one night looking for a restaurant.  It all run by refugees so it was confusing to us to go into this complex which does not look out of place on the outside but completely different than not only Tsim Sha Tsui but rest of the city inside.  I don't know how it is possible in this area where the land is so expensive but the refugees live in this Mansion.  Supposedly the rent is cheap although the apartments are super small.

Like rich nations, the immigrant situation is difficult for HK to solve.  It is already the 4th most crowded area in the world.  It has no natural resources so it is hard to take in more people.  But given the history of HK people migrating to other parts of the world and faced discrimination, it is important that they treat those who come to HK with respect and dignity.  Domestic workers allow women to go into the workforce full time and thus boost the economy of the city.  If HK allow refugees to go to school and work, perhaps they will contribute to the economy as immigrants in the western countries have done.  Hopefully HK will find humane and fair solutions.

3 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:34 PM

    Interesting posting today. I will try to find a way to watch Bourdain's show about HK. Reading about the Mansions reminded me of the Walled City I heard about in Kowloon. I had read about the Walled City a while ago and didn't realize it had been demolished. Though from what I understand the Walled City was put together in various segments and didn't have businesses like the Mansions.

    How much of the Mansions were you able to see? Were you able to walk most of the lower level? It seems quite large.

    I remember going to HK over 20 years ago and the Filipina workers would congregate in what seemed like under an overpass. I am curious, are mainland Chinese allowed to go to HK easily? Are they able to move there and what would their immigration status be?

    Also, you had mentioned before that you lived in HK as a child. Did you try to find your old home?

    -LBOAYM

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  2. Anonymous7:39 AM

    Well, I watched the HK episode last night and wake up to the news that Bourdain had committed suicide in France. I thought the episode was decent and that the director he was travelling with was interesting. I had seen a couple of his movies years ago. Not much on the Mansions, but thought it was interesting that the immigrants Bourdain sat with, spoke English very well.

    I read up a little on the Mansions and how there is a crime problem there. Did you see any scary stuff or did you feel you needed to be aware a little more while in there?

    I am going to miss watching Anthony Bourdain. He had a gift of story telling which painted a greater picture of where he was travelling. Of course, I was very hungry after watching the hand made noodle segment. I hope places like that are still around if I ever go to HK!

    -LBOAYM

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  3. I did not think of the Walled City when I wrote about the Chungking Mansion. Walled City was occupied by Chinese whereas the Mansion was occupied by non Chinese. While both had a reputation of having a lot of crimes, Walled City was controlled by the Triad and so probably not good to go in before it was demolished. The government has tried to decrease crime in the Mansion. Supposedly there are cameras put up by CCTV all over the first two floors. We went in there by accident and walked pretty much all of the ground floor. We did not see anything suspicious and there were not any threatening people. There were a lots of small shops and eateries and we thought it was maybe Indiatown of HK! It was not until we came back out and saw the sign that we realized where we just came out of. So maybe being ignorant was good but we did not feel unsafe there.

    I did not go back to the old home. I was there in 1997 and saw pictures of it recently. Since we didn't have much time neither my wife and I went back to our old homes.

    I don't know a lot about mainland immigration to HK now. I think there is a quota for legal immigration with preference for talented mainland people. There used to be an investment visa for people who invest money in HK just like we have here in U.S. and Canada. But that may have stopped in HK. Also people who have family in HK are also likely to be accepted legally. It is relatively easy to get travel permit from China to HK and then if a woman gives birth in HK, the child becomes citizen. So it looks like they have the same Chinese pregnant woman problem in HK as in California!

    It is sad about Bourdain. It just goes to show you that it is hard to detect how depressed someone is. He seemed to be doing so well and was so willing to talk about his earlier dark life. I don't know how good of a chef he is since I never tasted his food. But you are right about his story telling. It would seem he has a better understanding of the world than most people and is able to articulate that understanding. But somehow he could not understand and conquer his own demons.

    Couple of things about what he said strikes me. One is that our "weird" food is the world's "delicious". That is so right. When I first came to this country, I thought things like spaghetti and cheese were weird! He also said that we should walk in other people's shoes, or at least eat their food. I agree but eating their food is not good enough. I am sure Trump likes Mexican food but that doesn't help! But if we do walk in other people's shoes, there will a lot less wars.

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